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Joshua Lonestar
Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.08.28 15:23:33 -
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As long as incursions exist in high sec its a hollow argument to say L5's need to stay in low sec due to the income.
Move'm to high sec or move incursions to low sec. But its silly to cry about someone wanting a L5 mission moved to high sec as long as you can make 100+ mil an hour on incursions. Lets be honest there....An EASY 100+ mil an hour with NO RISK. With SRP in place Incursions are actually safer than missions. |
Joshua Lonestar
Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.08.28 15:34:45 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Joshua Lonestar wrote:As long as incursions exist in high sec its a hollow argument to say L5's need to stay in low sec due to the income.
Move'm to high sec or move incursions to low sec. But its silly to cry about someone wanting a L5 mission moved to high sec as long as you can make 100+ mil an hour on incursions. Lets be honest there....An EASY 100+ mil an hour with NO RISK. With SRP in place Incursions are actually safer than missions. why should they be moved when you can just move yourself?
I spelled it out very clearly. Go reread my post. |
Joshua Lonestar
Perkone
Caldari State
33
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Posted - 2015.08.28 16:12:07 -
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Lan Wang wrote:i read your post but what is the point in moving stuff around when the player can easily just move themselves
The heart of the argument against moving L5s is that it would be too easy for an individual to make isk by running :5s. Which completely ignores the fact Incursions will make as much and be even safer than missions.
The argument is simply empty. Theres no good reason to not move L5s. If anything Incursions should be moved to low sec/null sec only.
LS L5s already generate so little contact and interaction as to be insignificant Missioners simply arent pulling up stakes and moving to LS to run L5s in droves. No matter how much silly arguments there are about "Just move!" it aint gonna happen.
So between the lack of movement and the already running HS isk faucets, there isnt a sensible reason not to move L5s. |
Joshua Lonestar
Perkone
Caldari State
33
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Posted - 2015.08.28 17:35:01 -
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Estella Osoka wrote:Joshua Lonestar wrote:Lan Wang wrote:i read your post but what is the point in moving stuff around when the player can easily just move themselves The heart of the argument against moving L5s is that it would be too easy for an individual to make isk by running :5s. Which completely ignores the fact Incursions will make as much and be even safer than missions. The argument is simply empty. Theres no good reason to not move L5s. If anything Incursions should be moved to low sec/null sec only. LS L5s already generate so little contact and interaction as to be insignificant Missioners simply arent pulling up stakes and moving to LS to run L5s in droves. No matter how much silly arguments there are about "Just move!" it aint gonna happen. So between the lack of movement and the already running HS isk faucets, there isnt a sensible reason not to move L5s. Incursions are a group activity. Running a L5 is not. L5s were in hisec at one point, player base complained the payout outweighed the risk (which it does), so to lowsec they went. And pray tell where do you get that L5s generate little contact? I know several people who run them. One L5 mission generates more isk than running an Incursion for an hour. Max skills will net an ~10mil isk plus 80K-90K LP. If you go by the standard LP rate of 1500isk/1LP, 90K LP comes out to 135mil isk. Good players can easily chain L5 missions and complete 2-3 an hour. So yeah, moving them back to hisec would make them unbalanced in the scheme of risk vs. reward.
Several players?! You dont say...Out of the tens of thousands in the game. I'm sold. L5s are the most active content in Eve based on a guy who knows a few people doing them.
So nerf the payout....20%. Give or take.
The point still remains, with all the other safe isk faucets out there having L5s in high sec just doesnt even make the radar for anyone who isnt wearing blinders. |
Joshua Lonestar
Perkone
Caldari State
33
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Posted - 2015.08.28 21:42:54 -
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Estella Osoka wrote:Joshua Lonestar wrote:Estella Osoka wrote:Joshua Lonestar wrote:Lan Wang wrote:i read your post but what is the point in moving stuff around when the player can easily just move themselves The heart of the argument against moving L5s is that it would be too easy for an individual to make isk by running :5s. Which completely ignores the fact Incursions will make as much and be even safer than missions. The argument is simply empty. Theres no good reason to not move L5s. If anything Incursions should be moved to low sec/null sec only. LS L5s already generate so little contact and interaction as to be insignificant Missioners simply arent pulling up stakes and moving to LS to run L5s in droves. No matter how much silly arguments there are about "Just move!" it aint gonna happen. So between the lack of movement and the already running HS isk faucets, there isnt a sensible reason not to move L5s. Incursions are a group activity. Running a L5 is not. L5s were in hisec at one point, player base complained the payout outweighed the risk (which it does), so to lowsec they went. And pray tell where do you get that L5s generate little contact? I know several people who run them. One L5 mission generates more isk than running an Incursion for an hour. Max skills will net an ~10mil isk plus 80K-90K LP. If you go by the standard LP rate of 1500isk/1LP, 90K LP comes out to 135mil isk. Good players can easily chain L5 missions and complete 2-3 an hour. So yeah, moving them back to hisec would make them unbalanced in the scheme of risk vs. reward. Several players?! You dont say...Out of the tens of thousands in the game. I'm sold. L5s are the most active content in Eve based on a guy who knows a few people doing them. So nerf the payout....20%. Give or take. The point still remains, with all the other safe isk faucets out there having L5s in high sec just doesnt even make the radar for anyone who isnt wearing blinders. Dude, just get out of your safezone and take some risks.
Hate to bust your bubble sunshine but I dont run missions anywhere in k space, and I dont do incursions. I dont have a dog in this fight other than to say its utterly silly to complain about the L5 payouts as long as incursions exist. |
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